This was shot at Bud Morris' house at a BJ picnic. It will show up small but I think you still can pick out some folks you know...click on the headline for a bigger picture.
Saturday, February 12, 2005
Those were the times
This was shot at Bud Morris' house at a BJ picnic. It will show up small but I think you still can pick out some folks you know...click on the headline for a bigger picture.
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How about some IDs?
I'll start & others can finish it up.
Front (from left):
Barbarba Mudrak, Dennis Haas, ? , Ken Cole, ? , Bill Hunter, ? , Ott Gangl
Second row:
? , Joe Catalano, Polly Paffilas, ? , ? , ?, Marge Davis, Ron Kuhner, ? , ? , Clyde "Bud" Morris
Third row:
? , ? , Cathy Tierney, ? , Craig Wilson, ? , ? , ? , Bill Schlemmer, Art Cullison, Harry Liggett, ?
Fourth row:
Ed Schoenloeb, Fran Murphey, Art Krummel, Tim Smith, ? , ? , Sol Schwartz, Pat Englehart, Dave Boerner (peeking), ? , ? , ? , ? , ? (although I recognize her, and she played golf at Sycamore Valley when I did, I just can't remember her name), ? , ? , Don Hawk
So I named 23 people, and I wasn't even there. Let's hear it from anyone who knows the ? people.
Front l to r from Kenny Cole (holding cup out):
Ken Cole, ? Feldkamp, Bill Hunter, Bill G…, Ott Gangl.
2nd row seated;
Mudrak or Pam McCarthy, Tom Marvin, Dennis Haas, Tom Moore,Polly Paffilas,?,?, M&M Jim Jackson, Marge Davis, Ron Kuner, Nancy ?.Kenny Nichols, Bud Morris.
Kneeling row behind them:
?, Kathy Tirney, ?, Craig Wilson, ?, ?, Eddie ?, Bill Schlemmer, Art Cullison, Harry Ligget, and the guy who wrote about cars.
Standing:
Eddy Schoeleb, Fran Murphey, Art Krummel, Tim Smith, ?, ?, Tom Haney, ?, Sol Schwarz, Pat Engelhart, Dave Boerner, ?, sports guy, nice guy, Lew Henderson, ?, ?, ?, ?, Don Hawk.
I don't know how to edit 'comments' but I want to correct Sol Shwartz's and Cathy Tierney's name.
Boy this photo is generating comments.
While you are at it, Ott, the correct spelling of my name is Harry Liggett with two t's on the end. And Ron is Kuner and not Kuhner as spelled by Olesky. I also believe it was the late Bill Ferguson instead of me in the photo since I was never at the home of Bud Morris. But the photo really reminds us all of past friends.
Sorry, Harry, here is your other 't' . I can't quite read the name on the fellow's nametag in the original picture, but looking at it with the magnifying glass, he isn't you but looks like you in your younger years, maybe Art Cullison will remember.
Boy, would Pat E. be all over me for spelling names wrong and thinking that some guy was Harry Liggett when he isn't.
And "Joe Catalano" really is Tom Moore. I blew up my copy and examined it carefully. But "Harry Liggett" must be Harry's twin brother?
Now, how about my original request: Who can identify more of the people who were not identified by me or Ott or Harry?
OK, according to Ott, Harry & me, this is what we have so far:
Front l to r from Kenny Cole (holding cup out):
Ken Cole, ? Feldkamp, Bill Hunter, Bill G…, Ott Gangl.
2nd row seated;
Barbara Mudrak, Tom Marvin, Dennis Haas, Tom Moore, Polly Paffilas,?,?, Margo & Jim Jackson, Marge Davis, Ron Kuner, Nancy ?, Kenny Nichols, Bud Morris.
Kneeling row behind them:
?, Cathy Tierney, ?, Craig Wilson, ?, ?, Eddie ?, Bill Schlemmer, Art Cullison, NOT Harry Liggett (Bill Ferguson?), and the guy who wrote about cars.
Standing:
Eddy Schoenloeb, Fran Murphey, Art Krummel, Tim Smith, ?, ?, Tom Haney, ?, Sol Schwartz, Pat Englehart, Dave Boerner, ?, sports guy, nice guy, Lew Henderson, ?, ?, ?, ?, Don Hawk.
That leaves 18 people to be identified. Anyone else know any of the ? people?
Dave Boerner identifies additional people:
between polly & margot: bob hoyt and libbey sammeth (mr. knight's secy.)
between tierney and craig: nancy bonner?
to the right of me: tim hayes?
2 spots to the right of henderson: maxine lozier?
2 spots to the right of her: bob walker?
Tom Moore comes up with more IDs:
guy beside polly is bob hoyt
guy beside bll ferguson is joe kebler
So Tom confirms Dave Boerner's Bob Hoyt ID and agrees with Harry that "Harry Liggett" (sorry, Harry) is Bill Ferguson.
And identifies "the guy who wrote about cars" as Joe Keebler.
We're narrowing it down. Anyone else identify those with ? instead of a name? Thanks.
John,
Nice Hearing from you. I think I have two partial Idents.
In the "2nd row seated" to the right of me (ron kuner) is I believe Nancy Yockey Bonar (nbonar@stratos.net) this may be a bad addrress but it's the last email address I have. But I just checked Harry Ligget's BJ Retirees list and he has (nanbonar@aol.com) send photo to her to verify.
In the row "Standing" the person marked "sports guy" I think is a former sports writer but I think when the PBA (Pro Bowling Assoc.) was formed in Akron he went to work for them and headed-up the association and or Public Relations for a while. But I can't remember his name but that might give you a lead.
If anyone can remember some of these names I think it would be Craig Wilson, ( Barbertongirl@neo.rr.com)
Sorry I can't help you any more.
Ron Kuner
rkuner@mindspring.com
From Cathy Tierney comes more IDs:
John,
The woman sitting between Polly and Margo Jackson is Libby Sammis (I think that's how she spelled her last name), John Knight's last secretary, who stayed on awhile after his death to wrap up his paper work. The woman to the left of Craig Wilson might be Edie (check spelling of her first name) Parker -- not sure, but it looks like her (Murray Parker's daughter). The guy behind Sol Schwartz, slightly to the left, with the v-neck shirt & dark hair & mustache is Rich Videgar (spelling? -- who used to work in the library). Everyone looks familiar, but that's all I can identify at the moment. Sad to think so many are no longer with us.
Take care,
Cathy
With all the email IDs we've gotten, and correction of spelling, this is what I think we have now:
Front l to r from Kenny Cole (holding cup out):
Ken Cole, ? Feldkamp, Bill Hunter, Bill G…, Ott Gangl.
2nd row seated;
Barbara Mudrak, Tom Marvin, Dennis Haas, Tom Moore, Polly Paffilas, Bob Hoyt, Lilly Sammeth, Margot & Jim Jackson, Marge Davis, Ron Kuner, ? , Kenny Nichols, Bud Morris.
Kneeling row behind them:
?, Cathy Tierney, Nancy Yockey Bonar, Craig Wilson, Edie Parker (Murray Parker’s daughter), ?, Eddie ?, Bill Schlemmer, Art Cullison, Bill Ferguson, Joe Kuebler.
Standing:
Eddy Schoeleb, Fran Murphey, Art Krummel, Tim Smith, ?, ?, Tom Haney, Rich Videgar, Sol Schwartz, Pat Englehart, Dave Boerner, ?, sports guy, nice guy, Lew Henderson, ?, Maxine Lozier, ?, Bob Walker, Don Hawk.
If anyone can clear up the ? folks, have at it. Just click on "Post a Comment" and clear up the remaining mysteries.
Thanks.
With all the email IDs we've gotten, and correction of spelling, this is what I think we have now:
Front l to r from Kenny Cole (holding cup out):
Ken Cole, ? Feldkamp, Bill Hunter, Bill G…, Ott Gangl.
2nd row seated;
Barbara Mudrak, Tom Marvin, Dennis Haas, Tom Moore, Polly Paffilas, Bob Hoyt, Lilly Sammeth, Margot & Jim Jackson, Marge Davis, Ron Kuner, ? , Kenny Nichols, Bud Morris.
Kneeling row behind them:
?, Cathy Tierney, Nancy Yockey Bonar, Craig Wilson, Edie Parker (Murray Parker’s daughter), ?, Eddie ?, Bill Schlemmer, Art Cullison, Bill Ferguson, Joe Kuebler.
Standing:
Eddy Schoeleb, Fran Murphey, Art Krummel, Tim Smith, ?, ?, Tom Haney, Rich Videgar, Sol Schwartz, Pat Englehart, Dave Boerner, ?, sports guy-nice guy, Lew Henderson, ?, Maxine Lozier, ?, Bob Walker, Don Hawk.
If anyone can clear up the ? folks, have at it. Just click on "Post a Comment" and clear up the remaining mysteries.
Thanks.
Ident for the "Standing Row":
The name for "sports guy" might be Bud Fisher check with others and see if they agree. If it is Bud Fisher he worked for the PBA with Eddie Elias.
Hey Ott Gangl you should be able to ident this guy if he is Bud Fisher, we used to see him at Riviera Lanes when we covered the Firestone Tournament of Champions.
Ron Kuner, 3:45pm Akron time.
Yes, Ron, that's Bud Fisher and the between him and Lew Henderson is Bob Poe.
The man next to Bill Schlemmer is Eddie Butler. The woman next to Ron Kuner looks like Marcy Nighswander.
If I'm reading it right, then this is what we have for IDs now. Any corrections or ID of the ? folks?
Front l to r from Kenny Cole (holding cup out):
Ken Cole, Bob Feldkamp, Bill Hunter, Bill G… ? , Ott Gangl.
2nd row seated;
Barbara Mudrak, Tom Marvin, Dennis Haas, Tom Moore, Polly Paffilas, Bob Hoyt, Lilly Sammeth, Margot & Jim Jackson, Marge Davis, Ron Kuner, Marcy Nighswander, Kenny Nichols, Bud Morris.
Kneeling row behind them:
?, Cathy Tierney, Nancy Yockey Bonar, Craig Wilson, Edie Parker (Murray Powers’ daughter), Colleen Murphy, Eddie Butler, Bill Schlemmer, Art Cullison, Bill Ferguson, Joe Kuebler.
Standing:
Eddy Schoeleb, Fran Murphey, Art Krummel, Tim Smith, ?, ?, Tom Haney, Rich Videgar, Sol Schwartz, Pat Englehart, Dave Boerner, Tim Hayes, Bud Fisher, Bob Poe, Lew Henderson, Maxine Johnson, Lloyd Stoyer, Bob Walker, Don Hawk, ? (in front of Don Hawk)
We need ID on the guy identified as Bill G.; the woman left of Cathy Tierney and in front of Tim Smith; on the guy partially hidden by Tim Smith; on the woman in front of Tom Haney, the guy in the sunglasses; and on the guy in front of Don Hawk.
5 to go and we've identified everyone. Of course, if Ott had gotten the IDs at the time, as per BJ requirements, we wouldn't be having this much fun trying to figure out who people were decades ago!
Quickly as I'll have to get a magnifying glass to really look (also have original photo buried in my files): person in front of Don Hawk is Joe Keebler (or Kuebler), although he could also be shown as being next to Bill Ferguson.
I'm behind Ott, not in third row next to Cathy Tierney. OF COURSE, with a big Magnifying Glass, POLLY could name every person in photo. Why doesn't someone call and go visit her? Know she'd like seeing former colleagues. OF course, this might take the fun out of all of the e-mailing with IDS!!!! nancy
Paul Haney chimes in:
john:
that's definitely brother tom haney in the large shades in the rear left as suggested in the cutlines. bill schlemmer is also in shades in center right just behind ken nichols.
in 1953 (date of the picture) i was working in memphis for the scripps-howard's commercial appeal, having just been liberated from two years active duty with the navy at memphis naval air station during korean war.
paul haney
high rolls, n.m. 88325-0393
paulhaney@tularosa.net
Well, now we're into subtracting IDs that we thought we had. This from Tim Hayes:
John:
I don't think that's me, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. I remember going to Bud's just once for a Guild gathering, which this obviously is not. Also, I don't think that's Jim Jackson with Margot. Might be Bob Stopher.
Tim Hayes
So, is that Bob Stopher and not Jim Jackson with Margot Jackson? And I'm guessing that Tim knows who he is better than we do.
Any answers?
Naw, that's Jim Jackson. But it is NOT Tim Hayes between Boerner and Fisher. The guy looks familiar but I can't place him, old age and all that, you know...
And the picture was taken in the 1970s, not 1953..Paul, where did you get that date?
...Ott
Jim Jackson's name tag is clearly readable. I just saw Charlene Nevada Krummel peak out behind Tom Moore...
The tage on Bill G...could say Ginger or Geiger or some such.
...Ott
Ott, thanks for the larger photo. Upon closer inspection, I believe the man next to Lew Henderson is Jack Patterson. On the down side, I think we were wrong one the ones we had labeled Bill Ferguson and Barbara Mudrak, although I don't know the correct ID's for those two people.
The girl on the left is Pam McCarthy, Tom Marvin's future wife.
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